@benx Can we perhaps talk about this concept you introduced "punishing certain media". I would like to better understand what I think about that so a little back and forth might be a payoff for me.

Let me just take my own advice and tell you what I think so far.

That we think it’s worth talking about the premise that media can be punished already puts us in the top 1% globally, as far as free time out the ass as far as the eye can see. I say that so you know I have a hard time just getting started with these.

But whatevs, we shouldn’t be afraid of our own strengths, our own power, right?

So, (in the USA) we’re told by the right that the left is trying to trick us. And we’re told the same by the left. And both tell us that some media can be trusted, but not other, and the media, and the other media, tells us it is all desperately exciting, occasionally existentially so.

No-one talks about things outside of this arena of rhetoric. By silent class agreement, I’ll argue.

So, what is the too long don’t read summary of all that ascii?

Punishment can only be seen as performance at those levels. It has nothing to do with regular notions of justice, pain, reform and retribution. Great TV tho.