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@annahavron Oh so evil. If someone tried to sell me a pair of pants where the pockets were not pockets at all but seams (seems?), I would just laugh and tell them, “Sorry, you gave me the joke pants by mistake!”



@Miraz when I first long ago learned a little about the strange and frightening world of “women’s” clothes I experienced something like gratitude.

Just bras. Geebus Mahonicki! Size and sub size and wire and pinch and curve and roll and $100—fuck! Remember, at a certain point in our history folks actually killed these things, with fire, on the street. Kinda getting a feel for it? 🤣🤪😘

Fortune allows me to claim that a sloppy Hawaiian and dickie shorts look good. I mean, on me they do, but that’s not the point…


@JohnPhilpin Sure. Maybe. I think you’re right in that, in the end, it’s not much to do with security. Let me take another less preening peacock swing at it...

Culturally there seems little demand for actual security but much for the feeling, which is fueled, I claim, by preciousness, especially when its just about my stuff for me. Things are different however for documents of mutual trust. These must seem immutable to the common sense or they are rejected.

That’s the gist. All the rest was my standard bitching about the economic transformers wandering the landscape...



@JohnPhilpin this topic octopus has so many tendrils... end point vs channel, perceived vs demonstrable, which are the star-belly copies...

In context, I agree, yes, laziness and resistance to change, colossal institutional conglomerates with little incentive to do better. From the Age of Printout to the Age of Screenshots is not a long way to go conceptually, but handheld raster images, no matter how comparatively crude, have more street cred than 'screen’ images. Perhaps more now because of new tech developments, rather than only the emotional attachments of the skeuomorphic pioneers.


@rom I think the formula is something like, can I spend x hours every week to prevent bottomFeederCo from making the $1.34 off me this year as a direct result of having scraped my data into their pool? We end up with sort of class action price dynamics. It’s nothing for bigCo to absorb the risk after the fact, if at all, but the cost to prevent it in the first place can be quite high. Depends on the whole predecessor decision tree :-)


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